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July 16, 2012

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Hesiod

As someone who was at the forefront of battling what I called the "Swift Boat Liars for Bush" in 2004 (See: http://bruce-miller.blogspot.com/2004/08/swift-boat-liars-for-bush-accomplish.html) -- I agree with you. But, to bolster your argument -- you should include a link to the extensive still existing database compiled to debunk the panoply of lies that were told about Kerry's military service in 2004:

http://swiftvets.eriposte.com/

The depth and breadth of the mendacity involved was almost unprecedented. And the media at the time failed dismally to address it. To a certain extent, I am worried that the media this time may overcompensate for their failure to deal with the Swift Boat attacks in 2004 by unfairly criticizing Obama for the Bain attacks.

Jaime

Racism *is* a morally repugnant lie.

jwb

On the surface, it seems like you and Fallows are disagreeing about the essence of Swiftboating. For Fallows, the essence is the tactic of attacking the strength so as to turn it into a severe political liability. If I read you right, you think its essence is the use of a colossal lie so reprehensible that the campaign can't believe it is being taken seriously and so can't get a purchase on how to properly reply. The 2004 incident deftly combined those two.

The Bain story has none of the lie. What it has instead is the colossal Secret, which functions in place of the lie. I do think Bain and the Secret opens on to a similar dynamic for the campaign, and I think the similarity of that dynamic is what caused Fallows to use the term "Swiftboating."

Cha

I totally agree..and, thank you, Jamison Foser, for making the distinction between what was done to Senator John Kerry and what is now happening with the exposing of willard romney's lies.

It's lazy and unreal to call it "swiftboating". If anyone is swiftboating it's willard and the lies he's been spewing about PObama every time someone gives him a mic. He's pathological.

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